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Seasons displayed

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:42 pm
by FvE
Hi,

Wouldn't that give you an awful lot of data to be processed over and over again?
I like te idea of course, don't get me wrong.

How many displays are there?
I've seen you distinguishing the start of autumn and the falling of the leaves, thus giving at least two different displays for the autumn right?

Also there is some standard in the program already, where is that based upon?

In general I would say, use the 'official' calendardates for the changing of the seasons, giving you a standard to start with.
For the Netherlands that would be:

- 21st of March: Start of Spring
- 21st of June: Start of Summer
- 21st of September: Start of Autumn
- 21 st of December: Start of Winter

Regards,
Fred

Re: Seasons displayed

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:28 pm
by par
No, it's ok in terms of program performance.
It doesn't matter how much season information is provided.

There 5 season pictures in YoWindow at the moment.
-winter
-spring
-summer
-autumn
-naked season (no foilage)

>Also there is some standard in the program already, where is that based upon?
Sorry, I don't understand what you are asking for.

What do you mean by official calendar dates?
As far as I know the trees don't know about the calendar :)

Pasha

Re: Seasons displayed

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:41 pm
by FvE
par wrote: >Also there is some standard in the program already, where is that based upon?
Sorry, I don't understand what you are asking for.
To give you one example: On Oct, 14 I have green grass, On Oct 15 it's yellow.
I take it, all four seasons have a date programmed to change right now.
What dates did you choose and why specially those dates?
par wrote: What do you mean by official calendar dates?
As far as I know the trees don't know about the calendar :)
You're right, the trees don't :)
But the seasons do, that is: they have a, more or less, steady calendardate (see the ones I mentioned).
That is why I was wondering about the grass (summer?) changing to yellow (autumn?) on oct 15th.
Where does the autumn start on Oct. 15th?

Re: Seasons displayed

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:12 am
by par
Yes, YoWindow changes the picture on specific dates.
There is a data-base that contains season-maps.
Season-map is a table that describes at what date the season changes for a location.

Season-map for Saint-Petersburg looks like this
name="Saint-Petersburg"
geoname_id=498817
season_map=02.25:naked/04.02:spring/05.02:summer/11.12:autumn/12.12:naked/12.17:winter

YoWindow selects the season-map by taking the closest location from the season-map data-base

The more locations we provide, the more closely the landscape will look to reality.

Re: Seasons displayed

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:10 pm
by FvE
That's interesting.
par wrote: Season-map for Saint-Petersburg looks like this
name="Saint-Petersburg"
geoname_id=498817
season_map=02.25:naked/04.02:spring/05.02:summer/11.12:autumn/12.12:naked/12.17:winter
Would you do me a favor?
Can you provide the same Season-map as described for Saint-Petersburg for Leiden, Netherlands, Geonames-ID: 2751773?

Thanks in advance.

Re: Seasons displayed

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:45 pm
by daddylito
Look on the different season pictures that Yowindow provides.
(Turn time forward day by day, month by month and you will see slightly different pictures)
And then what you have to decied is for a location, at what date, the application should move forward to next season picture.
E.g. Does the picture with leafs on the tree better better reflect a certain date than a picture without leafs.

If you ask 10 persons living at the same location you would certainly get 10 different answers, but it´s up to you, to do your best, there is no true answers!
I.e. someone has provided a season-map for a location and there is no proof of it´s correctness!

So, the simple task is:
At your location, for every day of the year, choose the season picture that fits best.

This is my expectation of how the application works, but a guess is that snow can be handled differently!

/DaddyLito







FvE wrote:That's interesting.
par wrote: Season-map for Saint-Petersburg looks like this
name="Saint-Petersburg"
geoname_id=498817
season_map=02.25:naked/04.02:spring/05.02:summer/11.12:autumn/12.12:naked/12.17:winter
Would you do me a favor?
Can you provide the same Season-map as described for Saint-Petersburg for Leiden, Netherlands, Geonames-ID: 2751773?

Thanks in advance.

Re: Seasons displayed

Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:21 am
by FvE
Hi Daddylito,

That is and was already clear to me, thank you.
The thing is that I have a change from summer to autumn right now (and probably changes to other pictures as well) on a date that doesn't make any sense to me. At least not where I live. I was therefore asking/suggesting for the calendardates. After that I can and must always change these dates of course.

To name one reason: Here in Holland we can have snow, but if we do, we probably won't have it again for a number of years.

Thanks for your reply.

Fred

Re: Seasons displayed

Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:15 am
by par
I cannot promise you that custom season-map feature will appear soon.
Sorry :(
FvE wrote:Hi Daddylito,

That is and was already clear to me, thank you.
The thing is that I have a change from summer to autumn right now (and probably changes to other pictures as well) on a date that doesn't make any sense to me. At least not where I live. I was therefore asking/suggesting for the calendardates. After that I can and must always change these dates of course.

To name one reason: Here in Holland we can have snow, but if we do, we probably won't have it again for a number of years.

Thanks for your reply.

Fred