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Re: Winter landscape

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:57 pm
by ikarus1969
Only because it's zero or less degrees (celsius) doesn't mean snowflakes remain on the ground and form snow just because the ground is not cold enough (altough the air is).
Because YoWindow currently can't remember how the temperature has been in the last few hours to determine for example "ah, it has been less than zero degrees for 4 hours (and there is precipitation) so i have to show snow landscape because the ground now is cold enough that the snowflakes don't melt" the rule with -5 degrees is a good compromise. (wow! even in german this would a very long sentence - i hope it is ok :wink: )

Re: Winter landscape

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:36 am
by emil.sekula
In my opinion -2 would be better compromise.

Re: Winter landscape

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:32 pm
by par
You are welcome, Adrian ;)
Thanks for the help!
Smith88 wrote:Hi Pasha,

Thank you for make my suggestion after all, I really like it and the sounds too. :)

Adrian

P.S. I have translated the new expressions to Hungarian.

Re: Winter landscape

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:36 am
by Mallorca
Hi Reinhart,

I agree with this
Only because it's zero or less degrees (celsius) doesn't mean snowflakes remain on the ground and form snow just because the ground is not cold enough (altough the air is).
Because YoWindow currently can't remember how the temperature has been in the last few hours to determine for example "ah, it has been less than zero degrees for 4 hours (and there is precipitation) so i have to show snow landscape because the ground now is cold enough that the snowflakes don't melt" the rule with -5 degrees is a good compromise. (wow! even in german this would a very long sentence - i hope it is ok )
and your sentence is also understandable in German :)
Werner

Re: Winter landscape

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:29 am
by emil.sekula
And this situation ? Is it logic for you ?

Re: Winter landscape

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:20 am
by countryroads
Hi Emil,

I checked the Season Map for Warsaw, Poland.
The Season Map has Winter starting on December 22nd.
That is part of the reason that snow is not showing on your landscape.

What date should your location change to a snow landscape?

Thank you.
Marty

Re: Winter landscape

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:17 am
by emil.sekula
I think it should depends on current weather conditions and not season map.

Re: Winter landscape

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:10 pm
by ikarus1969
emil.sekula wrote:I think it should depends on current weather conditions and not season map.
It should. In a perfect world. But we don't live in a perfect world.
And as long as the source for YoWindows current weather - the METAR-stations - don't deliver all information (especially snow-layer information) a season-map is a good means to decide when to display which kind of landscape.
Season-map is "supported" by such rules as mentioned before ("less than or equal -5 deg. celsius -> snow-layer")

Maybe you can make a suggestion to at least for PWS YoWindow should use snow-layer information if available. But that, if ever, will not be available sooner than the winter-season 2013/2014...

Re: Winter landscape

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:36 pm
by emil.sekula
I think basing on current weather conditions (only temperature) is more suitable than season map. If it is below -5 then snow landscape.

What do you mean with PWS ?

Re: Winter landscape

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:11 pm
by ikarus1969
emil.sekula wrote:I think basing on current weather conditions (only temperature) is more suitable than season map. If it is below -5 then snow landscape. [/b]
Please don't let me be misunderstood, but we can "argue" or, discuss that and don't come to an end. Whatever rules we are talking about to decide which landscape should be shown, it always will be a subjective, personal decision. There's no science behind. To discuss which rule is "better" is the same discussion which operating-system is best, which coffee tastes best or if a red car or a blue car is looking better: such things remain personal taste.

Me myself have some opinions regarding alignment of values in inspector or use of units which are different from YoWindows author (hi Pavel! :wink: ).
After making a suggestion, Pavel says "no", i try to explain my opinion in another way, Pavel says "no", then i stop discussing. It's his program and i think he has specific opinions and expectations for "his baby" YoWindow. So either i stop using YoWindo or i live with what i (maybe!) see as limitations. I have decided to go on using YoWindow.
emil.sekula wrote:What do you mean with PWS ?
PWS: Personal Weather Station (see. english wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_weather_station)